Ukraine’s Zelensky: a new Trump presidency would be “hard work”| BBC News - Sottotitoli bilingue
In an exclusive interview with the BBC,
Ukraine's President Zelensky says any pressure from the West to end the war with Russia quickly would be at the expense of his people.
He was speaking after attending a gathering of European leaders at Blenheim Palace in Oxfordshire.
West's Keir Starmer urged them to stand firm in their support of Ukraine.
It comes as Donald Trump prepares to address Republicans at their National Convention in Milwaukee.
With the fear in Europe that if he wins November's presidential election, he'll be less committed to the security of the continent.
more on the battle for the White House in a moment but first Chris Mason our
political editor is here Chris yes evening to you at Clive the meeting today in
Oxfordshire was that of the European political community it's a new collection
of around about 40 European countries and it came together specifically to
respond to the war in Ukraine and President Zelensky was there this evening
I have been told talking to about the reality of being a wartime leader,
dealing with, as he is, his fourth UK Prime Minister in just two years, and then crucially the politics of the United States.
Take a look.
When Donald Trump said last year that he thought this war could end within 24 hours,
if he was to meet both you and Vladimir Putin, what did you make of that?
So everybody will be happy.
If one person dwelt, it doesn't depend, Donald or not, okay Donald Trump.
If one person in the world and this person Donald Trump can stop the war during 2004 hours.
The question is, what the price and who will pay?
So, do think you might play?
I think in his, I don't, no, no, I'm not meaning that his idea to push us to pay.
But if he want to do it during 24 hours, the simple way is to push us to pay.
Because it's understandable how.
It means just.
And forget,
sanctions out,
everything out,
he will put in will take,
the land pool, put in will be, we will made a victory for his society, we will never go on this, never.
And there is no any guy in the who can push us to do it.
Donald Trump this week has picked the man he would like to be his vice president, J.D.
Vance, who has said in the past that he doesn't really care what happens in Ukraine one way or another.
What do you make of those remarks?
Maybe he really doesn't understand what goes on in Ukraine.
So for us, we have to work with the United States.
And new team will come, we have to work with them.
We this hard work.
I guess.
Hard work.
Could be hard work to me.
Yes, but we don't afraid of hard work.
Look, did your heart sink last week when President Biden, standing right next to you, introduced you as President Putin of all people?
Neevien Prabhulatov.
No, he just made a mistake.
Honestly, for me it means nothing.
President Zelensky will meet Keir Starmer and his senior ministers tomorrow.
He told me he wants a special relationship with Sikhir and permission to fire Western weapons deep into Russia.
We need very strong support from Prime Minister.
We need this decision about long-distance weapon, long to use it.
We need it very much.
much?
They're targeting our hospitals, schools, universities, like I said to you, they're targeting our just stimulus.
We just want to answer to the exactly, to the point where from there.
how does this war end and how soon could it do?
Do have to restore Ukraine to the borders that you had before 2014 in order for you to be convinced that
that is grounds for
It will depend on partners who will put pressure on Russia so that Russia agrees to sit down and think about ending the war.
It doesn't mean that all the territories are won back by force.
I think that the power of diplomacy can help.
I want to try and understand on behalf of our audience how it is to be a wartime leader.
How do you keep going?
I'm not sure that I'm some special man or something like this, yeah, really.
I think we're good parents and to have, I think, values of ordinary, normal people.
We all have our limits, we're all human.
Could you reach the point where you couldn't go on as president?
Yes, I think yes.
Everybody.
Because we're just...
You could reach the point where you'd have to hand over to someone else.
Yes, of course.
In the next year, the next few years or?
After the war.
So you can go into the war with the...
Yes, we'll finish with it.
We have to finish with it and we have to finish with him.
I think it's very important for our people, our country.
Finish with Odermippa.
Yes.
Mr.
President, thank you for your time.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
It's a fascinating interview,
Chris, but wonders, given America's centrality to NATO and European security in general, whether this gathering at Blen and Palace was nothing more
than just a talking shop.
The curiosity,
Clive, of this structure, this new political structure that you'd be forgiven for not having heard of is that they try to make a virtue of it being informal and something
of a talking shop.
There isn't what's known as a communique.
afterwards.
What striking today was that Jens Stoltenberg, the Secretary-General, was there.
And spoke to him and asked him that exact question.
And he was trying to make an argument that he was trying to pray a role that bridged the Atlantic,
European members of NATO and others and the United States.
Conscious as he is, he's about to stand down from that role of the potential for turbulence in the U.S.
He did make the point,
though, that he was NATO Secretary-General during Donald Trump's term in the White House, and yes, there was rhetoric from President Trump, but he
said they stepped up when they
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